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HUAWEI IS STATE SECURITY: 3/4: Wireless Wars: China's Dangerous Domination of 5G and How We're Fighting Back by Jonathan Pelson (Author)

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 1 December 2024

⏱️ 12 minutes

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HUAWEI IS STATE SECURITY:  3/4: Wireless Wars: China's Dangerous Domination of 5G and How We're Fighting Back by  Jonathan Pelson  (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Wars-Dangerous-Domination-Fighting/dp/1953295614/ref=sr_1_1?crid=DJU62K5HQ6WR&keywords=wireless+wars&qid=1662137784&s=books&sprefix=wireless+wars%2Cstripbooks%2C65&sr=1-1

In Wireless Wars: China's Dangerous Domination of 5G and How We're Fighting Back, author Jon Pelson explains how America invented cellular technology, taught China how to make the gear, and then handed them the market. Pelson shares never-before-told stories from the executives and scientists who built the industry and describes how China undercut and destroyed competing equipment makers, freeing themselves to export their nation’s network gear—and their surveillance state. He also reveals China’s successful program to purchase the support of the world’s leading political, business, and military figures in their effort to control rival nations’ networks.

What’s more, Pelson draws on his lifelong experience in the telecommunications industry and remarkable access to the sector’s leaders to reveal how innovative companies can take on the Chinese threat and work with counterintelligence and cybersecurity experts to prevent China from closing the trap. He offers unparalleled insights into how 5G impacts businesses, national security and you. Finally, Wireless Wars proposes how America can use its own unique superpower to retake the lead from China. 

This book is about more than just 5G wireless services, which enable self-driving cars, advanced telemedicine, and transformational industrial capabilities. It’s about the dangers of placing our most sensitive information into the hands of foreign companies who answer to the Chinese Communist Party. And it’s about the technology giant that China is using to project its power around the world; Huawei, a global super-company that has surged from a local vendor to a $120 billion-a-year behemoth in just a few years.

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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world.

0:06.8

I'm John Bachelor.

0:07.7

Huawei, a security threat.

0:09.9

But it's hiring.

0:12.1

The book is Wireless Wars.

0:13.8

Jonathan Pelson is the author.

0:15.9

China's dangerous domination of 5G and how we're fighting back.

0:20.2

It is now the recession, the great recession,

0:23.4

2008, 2009, 2010. Many companies are making considerations about their future because of the

0:30.6

crash on Wall Street, the doubts about the future, the price of money. However, Huawei is hiring.

0:37.8

And Jonathan Pelson's book takes us into a room in Richardson, Texas,

0:43.3

where salesmen, salespeople, really good.

0:47.7

You know, as Jonathan teaches me, if you've got a book of customers, you're worth a lot of money.

0:52.6

You just have to pay you the right money. Huawei is bidding on these sales force from everywhere, and they're sometimes

0:59.7

increasing their compensation by 30%. So they're all gathered in a room waiting for something

1:04.2

to happen. Some of them, I imagine, have been there for days. It's a rudimentary room.

1:10.2

They're on folding chairs. There's some big

1:12.5

hitters in the room. In walks, an HR woman who gives them a speech. What does she tell them, John?

1:19.3

Well, she's talking to these people, and they're all, some of them have been laid off from

1:23.5

from Lucent or Nokia or Siemens, whoever. Some of them were hired away, lured away from

1:29.0

those companies. And she's explaining how it will be working for Huawei now. And she says,

1:36.3

among other things, she says, please stop submitting expenses or incurring expenses. And some of them

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