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How Zuckerberg and Barr Are Trying to Stop the Protests

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2020

⏱️ 20 minutes

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In this Trumpcast Plus preview, Virginia Heffernan talks to Wired columnist Siva Viadhyanathan about his piece on Mark Zuckerberg; and, later in the show, she speaks with New York Times Magazine writer Matthatias Schwartz about his profile of William Barr.  Only Slate Plus members get to listen to every Trumpcast episode in full. Sign up now to access every Trumpcast episode and support the show.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:46.9

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernan. So I was lying in bed last night,

0:56.8

finished with all the rituals one performed to shore up one's fragments against this ruin,

1:01.8

a blutions at the sink, changing out of pajamas into other pajamas, a crossword puzzle to stave off

1:08.4

mental atrophy in vain. When all of a sudden I reviewed the words of General James Mattis,

1:14.5

excoriating Trump. And then I went over the words of President Barack Obama praising the George

1:19.3

Floyd protesters. And then I went through some 538 polls floating around in my head. And I thought

1:27.0

the most evil eye inviting words, the words I hadn't dared myself to think in in ever, which are

1:35.1

the tide is turning. Okay. Now I want to inhale every syllable back in because the evil eye is around.

1:44.0

And this is me still in bed, musing as the clock ticked toward the suicide hour of 3 a.m. I thought,

1:49.8

have I thought or said that before? When there was a slim chance that the Hamilton electors wouldn't

1:57.2

actually vote illegitimate president Trump in. Remember that first hope when Komi was fired and

2:03.6

Mueller was appointed. Maybe I thought it then when ethics whistleblowers and mental health

2:08.6

professionals insisted Trump be held accountable or be thrown out under the 25th amendment.

2:13.9

What about what I thought briefly that judges or justices might stand up to him or as criminal

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