Welcome to the Dave Chang show, part of the Ringer podcast network presented by Major

Doma Media.

Today we have Scott Sternberg, the former designer founder of Band of Outsiders, and currently

he is operating and designing entire world, the new direct consumer fashion line.

You may be asking why am I talking to a very successful famous designer in fashion?

I think you should stay tuned to listen because there's a lot of parallels between cooking

in fashion and not just cooking in fashion, but I feel that fashion is sort of the bell

weather for where culture goes in the world today.

But first up, I want to talk about salted macarole, King's Hawaiian bread, and soups and

stews at cream barbecue spots.

So stick around, that's all coming right up.

I wanted to talk about three things.

Macarole, salted macarole like that, not a very beloved fish, but I think if you ask

a lot of chefs and cooks, it's a highly underrated fish.

There's a couple varieties of macro, we won't get into that.

I'm talking specifically about the salted macarole that you can get at Asian markets.

And it's an oily fish.

It has a very distinct flavor.

Macarole is delicious, fresh, pickled, but one of my favorite ways to eat it is salted

macarole that's been pan-fried or broiled.

And that's how I just made it for lunch today.

I popped it in the toast oven on the broiler setting, took it out of the package, and I

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