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The Dave Chang Show

How We Consume Now With Alex Stupak

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.88.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Dave interviews someone as pessimistically optimistic as him today: Alex Stupak, chef and founder of Empellón. Dave and Alex talk about the dark arts of sandbagging (2:33), the end of "high/low" dining, and the history of food leading to today (6:28). They also discuss selling out, Alex's new social media presence, and the origin of ideas. Somehow, by the end of the podcast, these two "pessimists" end up hopeful for the future of the cooking world, even with AI imminent (1:27:49). Follow Alex Stupak on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexstupak/  Learn more about Empellón: https://www.empellon.com/  Learn more about The Otter: https://www.theotter.nyc/  Learn more about Providence: https://providencela.com/  Learn more about Monkey Bar: https://www.nycmonkeybar.com/  Learn more about 4 Charles Prime Rib: https://www.nycprimerib.com/  Learn more about Corner Store: https://www.thecornerstoresoho.com/  Learn more about Alinea: https://www.alinearestaurant.com/  Learn more about El Bulli: https://elbullifoundation.com/en/  Watch A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica: https://www.metallica.com/releases/films/a-year-and-a-half-in-the-life-of-metallica-film.html  Watch Dinner Time Live: https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864 Learn more about Frenchette: https://www.frenchettenyc.com/  Learn more about Bianco: https://www.pizzeriabianco.com/los-angeles  Check out the Tartine Bread book: https://amzn.to/3KRMoqQ  Learn more about Spumoni Gardens: https://spumonigardens.com/  Learn more about Patsy's Pizzeria: https://www.patsyspizzerianyc.com/  Learn more about Scarr's Pizza: https://www.scarrspizza.com/  Learn more about Ceres Pizza: https://www.instagram.com/ceres.nyc/  Learn more about Apollonias: http://www.apolloniaspizzeria.com/  Learn more about Seiji Yamamoto: https://guide.michelin.com/en/article/people/3stars-ryugin-seiji-yamamoto-the-knife-technique  Learn more about Atomix: https://www.atomixnyc.com/  Learn more about Le Veau D'or: https://www.lvdnyc.com/  Learn more about Stretch Pizza: https://www.stretchpizzanyc.com/  Learn more about Salt Hank's: https://salthanks.com/  Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or [email protected]. Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow. Subscribe to Recipe Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@recipeclubofficial. Submit your favorite food moments in your favorite movies to majorfoodporn.com. Join our community Discord on majordomo.com. Host: Dave Chang Guest: Alex Stupak Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Engineer: Belle Roman Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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