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How We Became Shutdown Nation

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2019

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

How could congressional leaders end the current government shutdown? Come to think of it, how could they put an end to shutdowns altogether?

Guests: Tom Davis, former Republican congressman from Virginia, and Slate’s Jim Newell.

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Podcast production by Mary Wilson and Jayson De Leon. 


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Transcript

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0:00.0

When was the last time you were in D.C.?

0:07.0

I'm here now.

0:08.0

I mean, I'm sitting here now.

0:10.0

When I talked to Tom Davis, he had just had a diet Coke for breakfast.

0:14.0

I feel like you can hear it in his voice, that jangly energy.

0:18.0

And I was up on the House on opening day.

0:20.0

I went over, a state, over on the Republican on opening day. I went over a state over on the

0:21.7

Republican side for a good chunk of it and then went over the Democratic side just to talk to

0:25.2

people watching the roll call. Tom Davis is an old Washington hand. He was in Congress for over a

0:31.5

decade, a Republican representing Northern Virginia. I still have floor privileges. I'm not lobbying.

0:38.2

And I just decided to go up to the floor. It's an exciting day. You got a lot of new members coming in. And it was just an exciting place to be. I remember my first day in Congress in 1995. And for a lot of these young Democrats, they've taken back the House. There's that excitement. I mean, you can't beat it outside of maybe a World Series game. So it's exciting for you even when the other side wins?

0:56.8

Oh, yeah.

0:57.2

I mean, you can't beat it outside of maybe a World Series game. So it's exciting for you even when the other side wins?

0:56.8

Oh, yeah. I mean, the longer you leave this, you're not a partisan anymore. You're just

1:03.1

interested in good government. You want to make the place work. I am a citizen, first of all.

1:08.2

I know I was campaign chairman for the Republicans. I'm still a Republican,

1:12.1

but you want the country to work too. Of course, the country is not working right now, literally,

1:19.0

because it's shut down. And I wanted to talk to Tom Davis because he was there at what I think of

1:24.6

as the beginning of an era. Good afternoon.

1:33.3

Today, as of noon, almost half of the federal government employees are idle.

1:39.1

I was there for the longest shutdown in history representing a district across the river of 58,000 federal employees.

1:41.2

It is particularly unfortunate that the Republican Congress has brought us to this juncture.

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