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MeSsy with Christina Applegate & Jamie Lynn Sigler

How Vulnerable Can I Be? with Craig Thomas

MeSsy with Christina Applegate & Jamie Lynn Sigler

Wishbone Production

Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

4.93.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

This week Christina and Jamie are joined by Craig Thomas, an author and  Co-Creator, Executive Producer and Writer of How I Met Your Mother. He shares his experience raising a son with Jacobsen Syndrome, discusses the power of storytelling to make people feel less alone, and talks about his new novel, “That’s Not How It Happened.”  Executive Producers: Christina Applegate, Jamie Lynn Sigler, and Allison Bresnick Audio Engineer: Josh Windisch This episode is sponsored by: AG1 - Go to drinkag1.com/MESSY to get a FREE Frother with your first purchase of AGZ. Ridwell - Try Ridwell at ridwell.com/messy to get $10 off your first pickup or mail-in kit.Calm - Calm has an exclusive offer just for listeners of our show– get 40% off a Calm Premium Subscription at calm.com/messy.

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Christina Applegate.

0:02.5

And I'm Jamie Lynn Sigler.

0:04.0

And this is messy.

0:10.5

The following message is brought to you by Novartis.

0:17.4

Hi, I'm Jamie Lynn Sigler.

0:19.1

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0:23.0

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0:27.4

Figuring that out can be daunting. That's why I partner with Novartis to create an MS treatment

0:32.7

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0:38.8

Trust me, the more prepared you are, the more confident you'll feel.

0:42.3

Download the guide right to your phone, only at treatmentdecisionguide.com.

1:03.1

Welcome to Messy. This is Jamie. And Christina. Applegate. There it is. And we have a wonderful guest today. Christina, you know how you have those like handful of people that you've met in this

1:08.5

business that you just are like, they're, they're just a good person.

1:14.0

Like, this is somebody that's not only incredibly talented and smart and creative and successful,

1:20.8

but they're also like a really good person. There's not a lot of those around. You know what I mean?

1:25.5

This guy we have today's one.

1:27.1

Just kidding. No, I've actually

1:28.6

been very fucking lucky to have worked with kind of the best humans on the planet, regardless of

1:36.3

their resumes, just the best humans. So I'm really happy to hear that this person is a good human

1:41.2

because apparently there's a lot of people that suck out there. I haven't met them yet.

1:47.0

Well, good for you. I've only met a few, but I was lucky enough to work with our guest. His name is

1:53.4

Craig Thomas. He's an Emmy-nominated producer and writer created one of the most beloved comedies of all time on television, How I Met Your Mother, which I got to guest on many, many moons ago and how our relationship began. And let's just welcome to the show. Welcome, Craig Thomas. Thank you guys for having me. I'm such a fan of you both. I'm a fan of the show. I'm really honored to be here.

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