And we're back, Mike Sernovich.com, here with a special guest to talk about issues with veterans and how veterans are using

psychodelics for to treat traumatic brain injury and PTSD and we have a very special guest I'll let him introduce himself

but he was a ranger battalion third battalion for a number of years I think he had four

Deployments five deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan

he's been fully vetted this is a real guy this is not a pretender so welcome him miles

Hey Mike, thanks for having me my pleasure dude so what do you want to talk about? Welcome him Miles. My My pleasure, dude.

So what do you want to talk about?

I guess we could just talk about the whole how veterans are starting to gravitate to the

plant medicine, I guess space you could say I think a lot of them have tried a lot of these

other things to the therapy some of the other technologies out there and it's just not working out for

and I can think you can see that in the numbers especially with the spike in

suicides and the depression everything else out there and a lot of veterans are starting to gravitate towards

Abigane Iowasca, 5 a meo, DMT, so on and so forth.

So it's a good question.

How did they find this information and what are some of the problems

veterans have had that have gone untreated?

Well first off with the how they find this is through the network, the veteran network, especially the soft guys, they have their, they vet all their own people, underground networks, you know the deal and they just had to start

having a lot of issues. Not really, some of those PTSD, a lot of was traumatic brain injuries,

concussions, explosions, so on and so forth.

Some of them was just adjusting, assimilating, and just rage issues

because they don't matter if you you retired to left the army early

They're just they're away from their tribe

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