How Ukraine Loses The War
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🗓️ 3 January 2024
⏱️ 21 minutes
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How much longer can Ukraine and Russia fight at a stalemate? And does the outcome of the war depend on Biden winning a second term?
Guest: Fred Kaplan, Slate’s “War Stories” correspondent and author of The Bomb.
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| 0:00.0 | It's been a while |
| 0:05.0 | been a while since we've talked about the war in Ukraine. |
| 0:09.0 | You remember the war in Ukraine. |
| 0:11.0 | It's been grinding on for 22 months with tens of thousands of deaths on both sides. |
| 0:17.8 | In all that time, with all that loss, the battle lines have barely budged. |
| 0:23.0 | But last weekend, Russia tried to take a sledgehammer to that stalemate. |
| 0:28.0 | I asked Slates Fred Kaplan, what happened? Well, Russia, which you know, usually launches a few rockets at a time or maybe a dozen is a lot. They launch |
| 0:45.4 | something like 180 rockets all at once against cities all over Ukraine. |
| 0:52.0 | Tonight Russia ups its aerial assault sending missiles raining down on Ukraine. |
| 0:57.0 | Bombs dropped like never before. |
| 0:59.0 | Absolutely, these were targeted. |
| 1:01.0 | I mean, it was the biggest attack ever. |
| 1:03.0 | The barrage comes as Ukrainian officials are urgently pleading for more air defense systems from their Western allies. |
| 1:10.0 | People are saying it was the biggest attack since counting began. |
| 1:14.4 | Yeah, I think that's right. I think that's right. I think if somebody had guessed the day before |
| 1:19.5 | whether Russia even had that many missiles ready to go. They might have doubted it. |
| 1:26.8 | Dozens were reportedly killed in this attack. Afterward, Ukraine fired its own rockets into Russian territory as retaliation. |
| 1:36.0 | They also killed civilians. It seemed to me like a new kind of escalation |
| 1:41.8 | after two years of day-to-day battle on the ground. |
| 1:45.0 | One security expert said it wasn't just the sheer number of missiles Russia fired that surprised them. It was the way those missiles seemed to allude any defense, |
| 1:57.1 | with some of them flying in circles before looping around to their targets. |
| 2:02.2 | I was struck that even a Ukrainian defense expert called it cleverly constructed. |
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