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War on the Rocks

How Ukraine is Adapting, Enduring, and Striking Back

War on the Rocks

War on the Rocks

News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Mike Kofman and Ryan brought out the mics to discuss the pressing issues in the war between Ukraine and Russia. They focused on drones, the state of the front, manpower, Putin's approach to Washington, and the contested policies around continued aid from the United States to Ukraine. 
 
This episode features meaty excerpts from an episode of The Insider, featuring an interview with Jakub Jajcay talking about his article, "I Fought in Ukraine and Here’s Why FPV Drones Kind of Suck" as well as an episode of The Russia Contingency featuring a two part conversation with Stephen Kotkin, the leading historian of Russia and authoritarianism. If these excerpts leave you wanting more, you can listen to them by becoming a member: https://warontherocks.com/membership. Our prices are going up soon so today is the perfect day to join. 

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0:00.0

You are listening to the Warren Rocks podcast on Strategy, Defense, and Foreign Affairs.

0:14.1

My name's Ryan Evans.

0:15.1

I'm the founder of Warren the Rocks.

0:16.9

Michael Kaufman and I grabbed brunch on Sunday.

0:18.9

And after we indulged in some breakfast

0:21.3

casadillas and iced coffee, we recorded this episode. Enjoy.

0:27.2

Let's start with Sumi.

0:29.1

Yeah, I'd say there's a couple of main directions, but Sumi remains one of them.

0:33.5

After Ukrainian forces were forced to withdraw from Kursk, the Russian military kept pushing,

0:39.1

and they've established a thin buffer north of Sumi, maybe around 200 square kilometers.

0:44.1

And they were pushing there pretty hard in May, in June, but it looks like at least for now,

0:49.1

the Russian push north of Sumi has culminated, things there have stabilized a bit,

0:53.7

still remains a priority for them, just looking at the kind of units Russian military has a raid north of Sumi has culminated, things there have stabilized a bit, still remains a priority

0:54.9

for them just looking at the kind of units of Russian military has a raid north of Suming.

0:59.2

Sumi remains an important sector to watch. There's some activity up and around Harciv,

1:05.2

especially kind of north of Kupyansk. You still see Russian forces pushing northeast of Liman in this kind of

1:13.5

forest area. But then a lot of the focus remains the same places where you've seen fighting in 2423,

1:20.2

Danyask. You have Russian military trying to create two big pockets, one around Konstantinovka,

1:26.3

by trying to press between that city and Pukrovsk.

1:30.3

You've seen gains most recently in May and June,

1:33.6

essentially turning both of us into salians.

1:36.3

And particularly the last months,

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