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Ukrainians are like a very mature political nation, not because we really wanted it, but because we have to stand up for ourselves.

Hello, hello, and welcome to the conversation. I'm Dasha Burns, and every week on this show,

I talk to the most compelling and sometimes unexpected power players in Washington and beyond.

And this week, I sat down with Ohas D Finisna, Ukrainian ambassador to the United States.

As you may know from my past conversations, I immigrated to the U.S. from Ukraine as a child,

so this topic is personal.

It's been over four years since Russia first launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

The Russians are ready, ready for a full-scale imminent invasion.

Even Keith, let's listen.

More than 100 Ukrainian soldiers and civilians have been killed.

Hundreds more have been wounded.

And in that time, Ukraine has seen varying degrees of support from the United States

in its effort to stave off Russia.

Saffanishna was in the Oval Office for the now infamous clash between President Trump

and Ukrainian President Zelenskyy back in February of 2025.

You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.

You're gambling with World War III.

You're gambling with World War III.

And almost one year later to the day in 2026, I interviewed Zelensky for this show.

Today, only United States can stop Putin.

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