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How Tulsi and RFK Jr. Survived and Advanced. Mainstream Media Melts. (with Chris Cillizza)

Politics Politics Politics

Justin Robert Young

Election, History, Trump, White, Government, House, Riots, Mail, Biden, News, Politics

4.6 • 870 Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2025

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

Trump might get his cabinet after all.

It was never going to be easy, many of them pulled from the Deep MAGA reserves doomed to offend the old guard who are developing carpel tunnel holding their nose through Trump’s second administration. Others are lifelong Democrats who helped over the finish line but still inspire a stink eye from lifelong Republicans.

Some confirmations were easy—Elise Stefanik sailed through, and Marco Rubio was unanimous. Others more controversial, like Pete Hegseth, who barely squeaked by.

But throughout it all, two nominees had the lowest odds of making it through, Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. That’s because neither of them are Republicans, and in a Senate where the GOP holds a 53-47 edge, blocking a nomination means peeling off Republican votes, not relying on Democratic opposition. The Democrats could stomp their feet all they wanted—it didn’t matter.

But on this Tuesday, both have made it out of committee, thanks to key endorsements from influential figures within the GOP they both look to be on a narrow but assured path to the executive branch where they will serve at the pleasure of the president.

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Tulsi Gabbard

Her confirmation was boosted by Susan Collins, a senator unafraid to buck the Trump administration. Representing Maine—a state that's far from a deep-red stronghold—Collins' support was critical. It was enough to push Gabbard through committee on strict party lines.

Beyond Collins, outreach from newly installed CIA Director John Radcliffe and Senator J.D. Vance helped smooth over concerns that arose during her confirmation hearing. The main sticking point? Her stance on Edward Snowden. Gabbard made it clear that she viewed Snowden as a criminal and would not recommend a pardon, but she stopped short of calling him a traitor. This led to a bizarre debate over whether she was sufficiently condemning Snowden, as some seemed to argue that unless she said the magic “traitor” word she was unqualified.

Gabbard's confirmation has brought together one of the strangest coalitions I’ve seen on the right—far-right Republicans like Tom Cotton, staunch Never Trumpers like Meghan McCain, and figures like TuringPoint’s Charlie Kirk. McCain even appeared on Kirk’s radio show Monday to announce they’d team up to primary anyone who voted against Gabbard.

That looks like it might not be necessary.

RFK Jr.

Unlike Gabbard, his confirmation hearing was messier. While Gabbard kept her composure, RFK Jr. approached it like a Kennedy: arrogantly.

Democrats took their best shot, mostly by hammering him on vaccines, though their efforts were, frankly, ineffective. They made a lot of noise but didn’t seem genuinely committed to blocking him. In the end, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, a Republican who voted to impeach Trump, decided he was comfortable enough with RFK Jr. to push him through committee.

With that, Trump's cabinet is nearly complete. There’s one more potential hurdle: a labor secretary nominee who previously supported the PRO Act and has drawn skepticism from Republicans. But compared to Tulsi and RFK, this is a much lower-profile battle.

At the end of the day, this confirmation process has been tougher than what Trump faced in his first term, but his team has handled it deftly. The Democrats? They put up almost no real defense.

Was that on purpose? I don’t know. I suspect they don’t either.

Chapters

00:00 Intro

02:50 Tulsi and RFK safe?

12:42 USAID

21:04 Waffle House Raises Egg Prices

25:46 Senate Takes Charge on Reconciliation Bills

32:38 Chris Cillizza



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0:00.0

On this edition of the program, both Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. are on their way to confirmation.

0:06.3

We have a little media conversation with our friend Chris Zeliza.

0:11.3

And is Trump's one big, beautiful bill already dead?

0:17.3

It's all coming up.

0:18.8

The following is brought to you by just another pilot.

0:42.6

Hello and welcome everybody to the politics, politics, politics, program for February 5th, 2025-year-old palpit, Justin Roberts.

0:49.6

You know, joining me here in Austin, Texas.

0:55.9

A lot going on, obviously.

1:00.0

This is an extraordinarily busy government.

1:03.9

We have a lot of movement on a lot of stuff.

1:07.1

I don't even know if we're going to be able to get to all of it because it is happening in real time. I don't know what we covered last time. I don't know what we're covering this time.

1:15.2

I'm going to do a real quick substack plug up top because we do four episodes a week if you are

1:22.5

on substack. They're necessary now. I'll put it this way. There was a time four years ago when Joe Biden was in his

1:33.1

first year where I almost quit the show because I had to just talk about the incremental

1:42.0

rumors about the build back better bill.

1:47.5

I was tearing my hair out.

1:49.5

I just did not want to do it.

1:50.8

I actually, I think I talked about it on the show that I was giving myself permission

1:56.2

that if I didn't find news, I would just do something about political history.

2:00.8

Just be prepared that I will

2:03.2

talk about Spiro Agnew or something like that. We're not there anymore. Too much news. Too much

2:10.8

news. We're not really even going to get into the trade war that wasn't, the North American trade war that wasn't.

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