Coming up on the Mark Devine Show.

Trust is a willingness to be vulnerable when we can't completely predict how someone else is going to behave.

And if I want you to trust me, I need to have the courage to go first I need to be willing to be

vulnerable to you first to initiate a normal reciprocity and if I'm a leader I gotta

have the stones to actually lead with imperfections.

Welcome to the Mark Devine show.

This is your host Mark Devine.

On this show I love to explore what it means to be fearless by speaking to some of the world's most

courageous and resilient leaders. Stoic philosophers, startup entrepreneurs, experts on trust such as my guest today, Mr. Darrell's tickle. Before I introduce

Darryl further though let me say happy new year. I hope this year

2023 was an amazing one for you. I know there were a ton of challenges. Lots going on in the world, but you move forward, you made it, and

2024 is going to be even better. So here's the 24. Let's do it together. Gonna be awesome.

As I said, my guest today is Darrell's sticker.

Darrell's a leading expert on trust.

He's got over 20 years experience.

His PhD was called Building Trust in Hostel Environments, got that from Duke University,

and this established him as a global leader on trust for government business and NGOs.

Darrell's work for McKinsey and Company, as well as Advise the Canadian military on trust building in Afghanistan, and has served

on the faculty for the Luxembourg School of Business and Center for Effective Organizations

at the University of Southern California.

He's recently completed a book called Building Trust's

exceptional leadership in an uncertain world. Superstoke to have you here. Thank you

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