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Robert Wright's Nonzero

How Trump's tariffs could reshape the world | NonZero World feat. Karthik Sankaran

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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0:30 The pro-tariff argument: national security, jobs, and leverage 6:58 The four factions shaping US trade policy 11:43 Karthik’s core critique of Trump’s tariff policy 16:18 How tariffs could block development pathways for poor countries 22:52 Is Trump blaming foreign countries for America's own policy mistakes? 30:19 A brutal week for Vietnam

Recorded April 04, 2025.

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0:00.0

You're listening to Non-Zero World.

0:04.1

I'm your host, Connor Eccles.

0:08.6

Each week, I break down the latest developments in U.S. foreign policy and other global news,

0:14.3

and I interview a leading expert or activist.

0:17.0

To gain access to full-length episodes and other exclusive content,

0:27.1

become an NZN member today at Robert Wright's Non-Zerone newsletter at NONZero.org.

0:31.4

Hey, Carthick, how you doing?

0:33.2

Good, thanks. How are you doing, Connor?

0:39.8

I'm good. Why don't I go ahead and introduce us, get him started. I am Connor Eccles. I'm the managing editor of the Non Zero Newsletter, and I am also the host, of course, of this show, Non Zero World.

0:46.4

And I'm very excited to be joined today to talk about all things related to Trump Tariffs with

0:52.6

Karthik Shankaran, who is a, I believe you're a senior

0:56.5

fellow at the Quincy Institute, senior fellow in like geo-economics. Is that the, is that what it is?

1:03.1

Yeah, yeah. Perfect. In the Global South program. It's several nested titles. Yeah,

1:10.0

beautiful. Nesting doll titles are good.

1:11.7

And then, yeah, I believe you also have a substack.

1:14.5

Maybe we should plug at the top where you write about some issues related to global issues.

1:19.4

What's the name of that again?

1:20.5

It's called the homegrown globalist, GROAN, because I'm notorious for execrable puns.

1:30.0

It's kind of mostly in advance right now because a lot of my writing I do now I do on for Responsible Statecraft or or or other media. But it's still

1:37.8

live. There's a there's lots of there's lots of back content actually that is relevant to what we're

1:43.6

going to be talking about

1:44.3

today in case people want to check it out.

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