Brian there on WNYC.

So last night at the University of Georgia, Vice President J.D. Vance, a Catholic, a convert to Catholic, said something interesting about Pope Leo at a turning

point USA event, and what he said is worth sitting with for a moment, the Pope criticizing the

U.S. Israeli war in Iran had said that Jesus, quote, is never on the side of those who once wielded

the sword and today drop bombs.

Well, Vice President Vance pushed back on the Pope. Here's part of what he said, 48 seconds.

Pope said something where he said, and I'm going to try to remember the exact quote, but he said that God is never on the side of those who wield the

sword. God is never on the side of those who wield the sword. I'm pretty sure that he said that

exact statement. Now, on the one hand, again, I like that the Pope is an advocate for peace. I think

that's certainly one of his roles. On the other hand, how can you say that God is never on the side of those who wield the sword?

Was God on the side of the Americans who liberated France from the Nazis?

Was God on the side of the Americans who liberated Holocaust camps

and liberated those innocent people from those you know, those who had survived the

Holocaust? I, I, I certainly think the answer is yes. And you hear the vice president started

to get heckled there at the end, that heckling went on for a little while, but the vice president

went on to say this. I think that it's important. In the same way that it's important for the vice president

United States to be careful when I talk about matters of public policy, I think it's very,

very important for the Pope to be careful when he talks about matters of theology.

And what did he mean by careful on matters of theology?

But I think one of the issues here is that if you're going to opine on matters of theology,

you've got to be careful, you've got to make sure it's anchored in the truth.

And that's one of the things that I try to do.

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