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The Indicator from Planet Money

How Trump is making coin from $TRUMP coin

The Indicator from Planet Money

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4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Just before Trump began his second administration in January, he and his business partners launched the $TRUMP coin. It's a meme coin that quickly raked in hundreds of millions of dollars. And there's a lot of earning potential still left on the table. Is any of this legal?

Today on the show, we examine how the $TRUMP coin works and talk to an expert about how the president's meme coin gambit interacts with the Foreign Emoluments Clause of the Constitution.

Related episodes:
How the memecoin game is played
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0:00.0

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0:11.6

Well, and if you were trying to make as much money as you could from being the president, what would you do?

0:17.3

I would turn the situation room into an escape room and rent it out for birthday parties

0:21.6

and corporate team building. I was thinking cameo videos would make a nice birthday present for somebody.

0:27.1

Yeah. What if they just set up a big shady carnival on the south lawn? Be like, here, try this ring toss.

0:33.8

There are no bad ideas. Carry on. What about selling a meme coin with my name on it and the top

0:40.9

meme coin buyers get to join me for dinner? Now you're on to something, President Wong,

0:46.0

and that is exactly what President Trump is doing. Well, tonight, in fact, if you're among the top

0:52.6

220 holders of the Trump coin, this cryptocurrency,

0:56.7

you can join the president for a gala dinner.

0:59.5

I can taste that dry chicken now.

1:01.6

This is the kind of shenanigans that has me asking, is this legal?

1:07.3

This is the indicator from Planet Money.

1:09.4

I'm Waylon Wong.

1:10.6

And I'm Darien Woods. And I'm Darren Woods.

1:11.8

Today on the show, The Trump Coin.

1:14.1

We explain what it is, how the real Donald Trump profits from it,

1:18.7

and, yes, whether this whole crypto scheme is within the law.

1:35.7

Donald Trump is associated with a few cryptocurrency ventures, the Melania meme coin, the World Liberty Financial Crypto Company. Today, we're focusing on the Trump meme coin.

1:41.3

The Trump coin is similar to any other meme coin, which is to say it's basically

1:45.9

digital monopoly money based on some kind of in-joke or meme or famous person. In this case,

1:52.0

they set up a new type of coin on the Solana blockchain. That blockchain is a record of all the

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