I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were actually a few coronavirus patients

and I shook hands with everybody. You'll be pleased to know and I continue to shake hands and

I think it's very important that we, you know.

I've seen things that I sort of like, so what do I know I'm not a doctor. I'm not a doctor, but I have common sense.

Would you also weigh in on this issue of hydroxychloroquine?

15 times. You don't have to ask you. He's your medical expert, correct?

He's answered the question 15 times.

Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Muckrake podcast. I'm your co-host, J.J.8 Sexton. I'm here with my favorite

co-host, Nick Houseman. It is April 6th, 2020, as we are taping this, the coronavirus pandemic

keeps getting worse and worse. The news of the moment, well, there's a lot of news of the moment.

When is there not?

Is that Joe Biden has apparently talked to Donald Trump on the phone about the

coronavirus pandemic.

I'm sure that was an interesting, productive conversation.

And British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been put in the ICU and apparently might be put on a ventilator,

which does not vote well for his status. Nick, this just keeps getting worse.

It is. It gets worse. And I don't want to, you know, there are people who I think factually need

to point out that Boris Johnson had been quoted as saying, you know, he was continuing to shake hands and not observe social distancing.

And he even, there's even a soundbite out there of him saying he'd gone to visit a hospital and was shaking hands with people, including people that had the virus.

So the scariest part about all of that is that, you know, getting admitted to the

ICU is not good at all. Not good. Didosis is terrible for that. And if you go on a ventilator,

I think we've talked to this before, the odds of surviving are somewhere around 40%, which is better

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