Sorry, I got to hang out for a helicopter.

The helicopters over Shaw have gotten excessive and I want like a separate podcast just about

why there are so many damn helicopters going overhead all the time now.

I also have this question, but okay.

Hello and welcome to another episode of the weeds on the box media podcast network.

I'm Matthew Glacias. We're here with Jane Kostin and ProPublica's Darrylind.

The the economy is reopening this week in America with no problems having been solved as far as I can tell.

And the weeds along with that we continue to cower in our separate homes rather than than gathering,

working remotely and responsibly.

But we are reopening the weeds topic list that we had compiled from before the pandemic became

some ideas.

In a truly remarkable act of foresight, we had a big brainstorming session to set out the entire next

month at the beginning of March.

Yes. So we laid out an editorial roadmap that wound up in a ditch, but we are now returning to

select select elements of the roadmap.

So you know, one thing we wanted to talk about that I think continues to be 100% relevant

even as the world has been turned upside down is that there's this kind of argument simmering

throughout the political system for years, really, about whether you need to try to win

by persuading swing voters and sort of bring them over to your side.

And you know, that can mean different things, but sort of classically it's like, well,

you've got to be moderate.

You need to cater to the sentiments of people who voted for Donald Trump last time and make

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