Learning is nothing more than a distraction in the absence of action. Just be careful not to be

always learning and learning and learning and putting certificates up on the wall and doing nothing

about it. You will create the illusion that you're growing as a person because you're learning

and knowing, but you're not actually doing. If you're going to choose action versus learning,

choose action. If you only choosing one, fail your way forward. If you just spend the rest of your

life as an academic and learn and go to personal growth seminars and all of that stuff

and never do anything about it, you're just going to die a person that

knows a lot and never accomplished a lot.

J.C., before we went live, you told me that you had the secret formula to success and that that was

where you wanted to start. So why don't we get after that right away? Yeah, well, first of all,

it's an honor and privilege to be here on your show. I always find myself sitting in a place where

I'm doing things that I once thought I would never do,

you know, so, you know, I want to call my mom right now and say, Mom, look at me now.

You know, so anyway, it's an honor and privilege to have you, to be on your show at this crazy

juncture that we're at as human beings.

Yeah, you know, I like to come a little bit raw and truthful because, you know, we live in a world where, you know, for the most part,

people are under the illusion of how success happens.

So, you know, I'm just somebody that is sitting here on the other side of navigating a big pile of crap.

And I'm glad I did because I've got all the things that I ever thought I wanted.

And I like to say that my story is something that I call messed up to blessed up.

And I find that's an interesting topic.

And I'm sure, you know, I could interview you and you could tell me the same story.

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