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I'm Amanda Knox, and you're listening to Hard Knocks.

Hello, welcome to Hard Knocks. You listeners are here to listen to our guest, Simon Tam, who is the founder and bassist of the slants, and who is about to peace out of America. So good on you, sir.

Welcome. Thanks so much for having me. I'm really thrilled to chat with you. And of course, you know, you're extremely famous for this case, well, for your

music, for your activism, and for this case that has become a sort of confluence of your music and activism.

And I would love to talk to you about a lot of the things that sort of like or sort of get come out of that discussion.

So maybe we can just give a really quick backstory of what that case was in your life, and then we can sort of unravel

all of the big ideas that come out of it.

Sure.

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