Hi listeners it's me Gabe Roth while we here at mom and dad are fighting normally bring you

conversations about parenting triumphs and fails today I'm here to introduce a different

show for most parents work life balance feels like a never-ending goal that's constantly out of reach.

That realization prompted the team here at Slate to find out what it will take to transform the way we work and live,

as individuals, as organizations organizations and as a culture and so we

created the Better Life Lab podcast the show just launched and today we're

going to let you hear an episode featuring Michelle Hickocks who found a way to

build a career as a CFO and protect the time she needed for her family. The

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Now without further ado, I give you this special episode of Better Life Lab.

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From New America and Slate, I'm Bridget Schulte.

And this is Better Life Lab. I've had a great career. I love being

the CFO of this bank so I don't think the fact that I did it differently has held me

back in any way. My oldest daughter this summer she was talking to me

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