Do More Edition
Care and Feeding | Slate's parenting show
Slate Audio
4.4 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 21 June 2018
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Gabriel Roth, Rebecca Lavoie, and Carvell Wallace discuss the situation at the border, anti-mom bias in the workplace with Katherine Goldstein, how not to model vices for your kids, and more.
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains explicit language. |
| 0:10.4 | Welcome to Mom and Dad are Fighting, Slate's Parenting Podcast for Thursday, June the 21st. |
| 0:15.3 | The Do More Edition. I'm Gabriel Roth. I'm an editor at Slate, and I'm the father of Eliza, who is seven, and Leo, who is almost four. I'm Rebecca Lavoie. I'm a journalist and podcaster in New Hampshire, and I am mom to Henry, who is 16, Teddy, who is 15 and a half, and my stepdaughter, Lily, who is 18. And I'm Carvel Wallace, a writer and podcaster in Oakland, California, and I'm the father to Georgia who was 12, and Ezra, who is 15. |
| 0:38.9 | Today on our show, we're going to talk to Catherine Goldstein. |
| 0:42.4 | She's a journalist who wrote a column for the New York Times, The Open Secret of Anti-Mom |
| 0:46.6 | Bias at Work. |
| 0:47.6 | We're going to talk about discrimination against moms and pregnant women. |
| 0:51.7 | Then we're going to take a question from a listener about what to do when your kid gets old |
| 0:55.7 | enough to notice all of your vices. |
| 0:58.0 | Plus, as always, we'll have recommendations, and on Slate Plus, Catherine, we'll be back to |
| 1:02.4 | share a parenting triumph. |
| 1:04.4 | Okay, we start with triumphs and fails. |
| 1:06.7 | We're going to do this a little differently. |
| 1:08.3 | Carvel, do you want to start? |
| 1:09.6 | I feel like I want to talk |
| 1:13.2 | about a fail, which is the current situation at the border with parents and children being separated. |
| 1:24.6 | And this is not a fail in my own daily parenting but it's a collective |
| 1:32.3 | fail and fail is not the big enough word for it so I'm kind of shoehorning it into |
| 1:37.5 | this space but I will say that probably three weeks ago I tweeted something about |
| 1:43.0 | this and made a comparison between the early stages of what seemed to be something moving towards state sanctioned genocide and this moment right now. |
| 1:58.0 | And I got a lot of pushback that I was being too dramatic and that I was |
| 2:02.7 | grandstanding and virtue signaling was a phrase that was used at some point. And I, people |
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