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The Good Fight

How to Strengthen American Democracy

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2021

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

A proud Never Trumper and a founding editor at The Dispatch, Jonah Goldberg believes that capitalism and liberal democracy have long been the foundations of America's success. But as the country fractures, Goldberg fears we’re throwing all that away - and threatening to crash American democracy itself. In this week’s episode, Yascha Mounk and Jonah Goldberg sit down to discuss the meaning of the assault on the U.S. Capitol, the future of the GOP, and whether to impeach Donald Trump. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: goodfightpod@gmail.com Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams and Rebecca Rashid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

At Barclays, we're here for every goal.

0:06.3

We're here for the Premier League,

0:08.9

and the Barclays Women's Super League.

0:12.0

We're here for the football charts and for giving more girls a chance.

0:16.8

We're here for the grassroots and all the muddy boots. From schools to stadiums, we're here for it all.

0:27.6

Barclays, here for every goal. The And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:55.0

Hi, this is Christina Hoff-Summers.

0:58.0

I'm a former philosophy professor and now a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.

1:05.0

I recently wrote an article for persuasion called Lessons of a Black Pioneer.

1:10.0

The article is about the day Shirley Chism visited George Wallace in the hospital.

1:17.3

Now Shirley Chism was a political progressive. She was the first black woman to serve in the

1:22.4

U.S US Congress.

1:24.0

George Wallace was the governor of Alabama

1:26.7

and a notorious segregationists.

1:30.0

Now at the time she visited him in the hospital, they were rivals in the 1972 presidential primary.

1:37.0

And Wallace had just been shot five times at point blank range by an assassin and he would remain paralyzed and pain-ridden for the

1:45.8

rest of his life. Wallace was stunned by her visit and he said, Shirley Chisholm, what are you doing here?

1:52.4

He knew that he was her nemesis and that her supporters

1:56.0

would be anger by the fact that she visited him, but her answer brought him to tears.

2:01.8

And she just looked at him and said, I don't want what happened to you to happen to anyone.

2:06.4

Well, they chatted, they prayed together, and when she left, George Wallace did not want to let go of her hand.

2:14.0

George Wallace's daughter, Peggy Wallace Kennedy,

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