What is up? I'm Grace Beverly and welcome back to Working Hard, the podcast

shared guide book on how to improve your own life and achieve what you actually dreamed of doing,

because life's too short for boring podcasts and bad advice. What is up and welcome back to Working Hard. Today's episode is all about

reinvention, confidence and creating a comeback. Not the kind that looks good on the outside,

but the kind that actually changes how you see yourself. I'm joined by Chris Appleton, the celebrity hairstylist. He's worked with some of the most famous and successful women in the world, like Kim Kardashian, J-Lo and Ariana Grande, but behind all the glamour, he's been on a much bigger journey of reinvention and self-discovery. In this conversation, we talk about insecurity, self-doubt, identity, and how to stop letting your past, your background or your inner critic

dictate your future. If you feel like you're on the edge of a new chapter or wanting a big

change in your life, but you're unsure how to step into it, this episode is for you. Before we get

into it, though, please make sure you're following the podcast so a new episode lands on your feed

every Monday. Let's get into it.

Yeah. every Monday. Let's get into it. Chris Appleton, are you currently more working hard or hardly working?

I am working on.

Is that your only setting?

No, I'm better at hardly working now.

I enjoy my quiet time. I think it's really important to have quality of life. For a long time, I probably didn't think that. But you,

you know, I think experiencing burnout and just maybe having a great career, but not personal life

was something I wanted to change. But it didn't really change until I was in my 40s. I think,

you know, I'm proud of my career, but it's took a lot.

And I realized, I got to a place where you think you're going to get enough money and enough success and everything's going to be okay. And it wasn't, you know, and that was the sort of sad reality. So I think there was a part of me that wanted to find a piece when I'm alone

and when I'm on my own to be able to enjoy the life I've built and created, where sometimes your automatic go-to is to just keep going, keep going, keep pushing. But I think it's really good to be able to be present and sit with yourself. So I'm good at hardly working at times. It might just be a weekend or a few days of the week, but I don't know. I think I've created a life now where I want to enjoy it, you know. And it's also nice to reflect on what you've come from and how you've built and how you've gone through the years and just be present with that rather than running from it. And I think for a lot of my life, I was running from things. But when you have your running shoes on, you know, it can be beneficial. I'm not going to say I regret that because I think for a long time in my life, I needed to have them on to get to where I've got in my career. But I also got to a point in my life, like I said, I wanted to enjoy

the world I'd created. Yeah. And I think that's, I think what you mentioned there about, like,

running from where you came from actually is such a defining factor in so many successful people

who I've spoken to stories. Because I think that, you know, it's easy to say, oh, what motivates

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