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The World's First Podcast with Erin & Sara Foster

How to Stop the Overthinking Spiral

The World's First Podcast with Erin & Sara Foster

Dear Media | Wishbone Production

Female Founders, 750325, Leisure, Business, Aging, Nutrition, Advice, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Infertility, Comedy, Life Advice

4.52.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

This week, Erin and Sara discuss Sara’s 17k unread emails, affirmations, and the Eddie Murphy documentary. They are also joined by psychotherapist Stevie Blum to understand why we overthink so much, how to make space for all of our emotions, the questions to ask ourselves in anxious moments, and much more. 


Executive Producers: Erin Foster, Sara Foster, and Allison Bresnick

Associate Producers: Montana McBirney and Olivia Geffner

Audio Engineer: Josh Windisch

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0:00.0

The following podcast is a dear media production.

0:03.2

This episode was produced by Wishbone Production.

0:06.0

Hi, I'm Otto.

0:08.0

Welcome to Ellen Sarah's podcast.

0:16.5

Today is an episode that I, it should just be coined the Sarah Foster episode. You needed it. Because, well, it's not even that I needed it. It's just me. Like, all I do is talk with Josh about my overthinking, my catastrophizing. You and I are the queens. No, don't tell you. No, you're part of this too. You go out all the time and then you come home and you spiral whenever you do go out yeah i do that i do that i do that when i leave the house

0:41.7

any interaction i have i come home and i'm like why was that so weird why was i that why did i say that

0:46.5

with that tone and then i don't want to apologize to the person because then it's just acknowledging

0:50.3

this awkward behavior i just want to like run from it. Anyway, this episode is with

0:55.0

Stevie Blum. She is a licensed psychotherapist based in New York. And she's really great at helping

1:02.9

us deal with this stuff. I felt very relaxed. We, and I think a lot of women, because we've talked

1:08.6

about this on the podcast, and then a lot of people have

1:10.9

written me, and I'm sure you saying, yes, I do the same thing. Why is it in an effort to be

1:17.4

liked or in an effort to be part of the conversation or in an effort to come across maybe,

1:23.1

like you have a great personality or you're irreverent? You say dumb shit. Oh, yeah. And then you spiral

1:29.0

about it later. So anyway, so Allison was like, I think I got your girl. That thing you're always

1:34.2

talking about the podcast. I have this psychotherapist and she is going to come on and we are

1:38.4

going to talk about overthinking and we're going to talk about, like I said to her, I said,

1:43.8

how can you separate when you go out and then you spiral?

1:48.6

Like, they don't like me.

1:49.8

They were talking about me.

1:51.4

I'm just going to leave it alone because that's my overthinking.

1:54.7

But then what are you – what if there are certain times when you actually should be reaching out to that person saying, hey, I didn't like how that felt. Like, you seemed kind of cold. Like, that was a little bit rude. What am I

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