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Heal Thy Self with Dr. G

How to Stop People Pleasing to Finally Trust Yourself Again | ft. Dr. Ingrid Clayton HTS w/ DrG #422

Heal Thy Self with Dr. G

Wellness Loud

Health & Fitness, Alternative Health

51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Sponsored By: → Tonum | For an exclusive offer go to tonum.com and use promo code HEALTHYSELF for 10% OFF! → Cornbread Hemp | For an exclusive offer go to cornbreadhemp.com/drg and use promo code DRG for 30% OFF your first order! Sign up for our newsletter! https://drchristiangonzalez.com/newsletter/ Episode Description: Have you ever caught yourself saying “yes” when every part of you wanted to say “no”? Or smiling through discomfort because it felt safer than speaking your truth? That’s not just people-pleasing—it’s survival. Psychologist and author Dr. Ingrid Clayton calls it the fawn response: a trauma pattern where your body learns to appease, perform, or caretake as a way to stay safe. It’s not a conscious choice—it’s conditioning written into the nervous system when speaking up once felt dangerous. In this raw and illuminating conversation, Dr. Clayton joins Dr. G to explore: • What fawning really is — and why it’s more than just “being too nice” • The childhood roots of fawning: when kids learn to appease to survive chaos, neglect, or abuse • Why fawning often gets misdiagnosed as codependency, people-pleasing, or “low self-esteem” • The hidden signs: hypervigilance, scanning the room for other people’s moods, anxiety you don’t even recognize as anxiety • Gaslighting yourself — how trauma survivors often minimize their own experiences with toxic positivity or “it wasn’t that bad” narratives • Why setting boundaries can feel life-threatening — and why it must start with building safety inside your own body, not just “trying harder” • The link between fawning and anger: how unexpressed rage gets trapped in the body until you learn to give it voice • How fawning shows up in adulthood: in relationships where one person takes up 80% of the space and you squeeze yourself into the other 20% • Why siblings in the same household adapt differently — one might fight, another flees, another fawns, depending on role, temperament, and family dynamics • The gifts hidden inside fawning: heightened sensitivity, intuition, even artistry and performance — and how to reclaim those without losing yourself Dr. Clayton also shares her personal story: growing up in a chaotic home, becoming a therapist and author, and realizing that even after decades of training, she was still living out this survival response. Her journey shows how awareness, somatic work, and slow, safe practice can turn survival patterns into resilience and presence. If you’ve ever felt invisible, unheard, or like you’re living for everyone but yourself—this episode will help you see that you’re not broken. You’re adaptive. And you can change. 👉 Ready to understand why you’ve been living small—and how to finally take up space? Listen now. Find Dr Ingrid Clayton here: Instagram: instagram.com/ingridclaytonphd Website: ingridclayton.com Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 1:46 - Rapid Fire 4:50 - The One Boundary That Changes Everything for Fawners 6:17 - Why Traditional Therapy Failed to Heal Fawning Patterns 11:42 - Fawning Explained: Appease or Caretake to Lessen Harm 15:24 - Self-Abandonment: When Being Helpful Becomes Self-Betrayal 21:00 - How Fawning Shows Up in Adult Relationships 30:10 - "What Do I Want?" Learning to Tune Into Your Own Needs 34:01 - The Fawner's Superpower: Reading the Room and Nervous Systems 39:23 - Self-Gaslighting and Toxic Positivity: What Keeps Fawning Intact 43:57 - The Anger Underneath: Why All Fawners Are Angry 48:14 - Finding Your Voice: Breaking Free from Performance Mode 52:03 - Why Setting Boundaries Feels Life-Threatening 55:55 - Healing Fawning: What Authentic Expression Actually Feels Like

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0:00.0

Self gaslighting, toxic positivity, spiritual bypass.

0:05.0

These are all things that sort of hold a fond response intact that basically say,

0:11.6

you shouldn't feel that.

0:12.9

You're not allowed to feel that.

0:14.3

Don't go there.

0:15.3

It isn't spiritual.

0:16.7

You ever caught yourself saying yes when every part of you and your body wanted to say no?

0:22.5

You ever have a moment where you actually smiled through discomfort because that actually felt safer than speaking your truth?

0:28.5

A, look, that's not just people pleasing.

0:30.2

That is survival.

0:31.6

Psychologist and author, Dr. Ingrid Clayton, calls it the fawn response.

0:35.7

This is a trauma pattern where our body learns how to stay small, be agreeable with others,

0:41.6

but actually be hyper aware of your environment.

0:44.3

And why does it happen?

0:45.2

Because in your life at some point, standing up for yourself did not feel safe.

0:50.2

And the problem is, what protected you as a child became the very thing that keeps you invisible as an adult, exhausted, anxious, disconnected from your own needs.

1:01.2

And in this episode, Dr. Clayton reveals how fawning is wired into the nervous system. It gets stuck.

1:07.1

And the hidden ways that that fawn response actually sabotages love and boundaries and how to

1:12.6

finally, finally break out of that and reclaim your voice.

1:17.0

If you ever felt like you're living for everyone but yourself, this conversation is going

1:22.0

to be the wake-up call that you've been waiting for.

1:24.4

Dr. Ingrid Clayton, welcome to the show.

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