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Hi guys, it's Kathy Heller. How are you? Welcome back to another episode of Don't Keep Your Day Job.

I'm really excited. We're going to talk today about Etsy and I've gotten to connect with a lot of you over Instagram

and on the Facebook group and on the Facebook page and over email. I feel like there's just so many makers and creatives

and people who are doing lots of awesome things, whether you're making hand-lettered goods or you are making soap.

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