How To Stage A Coup
Politics Unpacked
Anna Covell
4.1 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 17 August 2023
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Military coups are "back" according to the UN, with Niger the latest African nation to have its government overthrown. Patrick asks why they're on the rise, and discusses the most consequential and surprising coups to have ever happened. The Times' Catherine Philp recounts what it was like to report on the 1997 coup in Cambodia with bullets flying overhead.
Plus: Manveen Rana and Matthew Bell look ahead to Rishi Sunak's September reset, whether the UK's economic success can be measured by the number of its millionaires, and why politicians are incapable of looking normal while watching football.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, you're listening to the Times Red Box Politics podcast. I'm Patrick Maguire and today |
| 0:09.1 | I am staging a coup. Yes, that's right, maturely, it's never coming back. All busy. Today we're |
| 0:15.1 | talking about that with an expert panel. How do you stage a coup? Just a couple of weeks after |
| 0:19.9 | Niger experienced one of the latest coups in Africa. You don't want to miss that, it's a fascinating |
| 0:25.3 | discussion of the history of coups and indeed the future of the African continent. But before all |
| 0:30.8 | of that, it's time for the economist panel. Menvine Rana and someone called Matthew on Times Radio. |
| 0:44.2 | Yes, I'm joined by Manvine Rana, host of the Stories of Our Times podcast. Hello, Manvine. |
| 0:48.8 | Hello. And today's someone called Matthew. That Matthew is Matthew Bell. Hello, Matthew. |
| 0:57.3 | Hello, Patrick. Hi. How are you? Great. Very good. Very good. Thank you. |
| 1:02.7 | I'm well. And I don't think we've ever spoken before, so welcome. We haven't. Well, |
| 1:06.5 | what's up for toppling Matt? You've done a great job. I know, I know. Let's see. I might |
| 1:10.8 | subject myself to a democratic election once the transition is complete. I'm not sure. I'm |
| 1:14.9 | confident I win it, though. Right. Let's get straight into it, shall we? From page of this |
| 1:19.2 | morning's Times, Rishi Sunat pledging, Britain's will be better off next year. He wants to maintain |
| 1:25.2 | discipline on public spending and tax. He thinks the plan is working, Manvine, his economic plan. |
| 1:31.6 | An inflation did fall yesterday for the second month in a row. But do you think voters are going to |
| 1:37.1 | feel it? No, no. I mean, it's to do from it had the feeling of somebody in number 10 had clearly |
| 1:44.4 | said to him, you need to be a little bit more boosterish. That's how Boris Johnson did it. |
| 1:49.6 | It made people feel a bit better to go out and be boosterish. And he's sort of saying the right |
| 1:54.0 | things if you're just reading the script, but I'm not sure anyone's buying them. |
| 1:58.9 | You know, inflation did fall a bit, but I'm not sure most people have really noticed that. |
| 2:03.6 | You know, their weekly shopping belt is still very high. Wages are slowly edging up to try and |
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