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Politics Unpacked

Has Political Correctness Saved Comedy?

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

Politics, News & Politics, News

4.11.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Has political correctness come to bury comedy, or to save it? Patrick Maguire speaks to David Stubbs, who believes 'wokeness' has been good rather than bad, and takes a tour through the changing face of British comedy.


Plus: Columnists Laura Freeman and Ailbhe Rea discuss why Labour is spending so much time talking about class, the decline of the chat show, and how to stage a heist.


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0:00.0

Hello, you're listening to The Times, Red Box Politics podcast, and for the last time

0:08.3

for a while, it's coming from me, Patrick McGuire. Yes, maturely it is finally back on Monday.

0:14.3

But in the meantime, we're going out with a bang. Today, we're asking the question. Did

0:18.9

political correctness save comedy? Now that might sound crazy, but it might just be true.

0:24.2

I'm going to speak to David Stubbs, the author of a new book on the history and politics

0:28.9

of British comedy to test that theory out. That's coming up after today's columnist panel.

0:38.6

The columnists on Times Radio. Yes, it's a Friday, and I'm joined by the Times

0:45.0

of Chief Art critic Laura Freeman. Hi, Laura. Hi, Anne. And Alvaray, host of Polisco's

0:50.1

Westminster inside a podcast. Hello. Great to have you both. How are you? How are you, Laura?

0:56.2

I'm very well. Thank you. I'm looking out the big gray sky. I was going to say it doesn't feel

1:00.5

very August today, sadly, although I mean, I mean, August company. Alvar, how are you?

1:06.2

Oh, good. Thanks. I mean, apparently it's warm rain, rather than cold rain, which makes a

1:10.4

difference, doesn't it? You know what? I haven't checked yet. I don't really want to

1:14.8

given how great it looks from Times Radio towers. But anyway, let's kick off with Westminster's

1:21.3

favourite topic of conversation. Every journalist loves talking about this. Working class.

1:26.4

Working class. Working class. Working class. Working class. Working class. Working class.

1:30.9

Now, some guy called Patrick McGuire has written a column in this morning's Times about the

1:34.6

Labour Party's very deliberate shift in language. You know, for years and years and years,

1:40.4

people like Tony Blair and other Labour modernisers didn't like talking about class, class war,

1:45.0

class envy, but Keir Starmer in the past couple of weeks, and especially around a level

1:49.7

of results day yesterday, has started talking about working class about his working class childhood,

1:54.6

other shadow cabinet ministers to do the same thing. Labour talking about wanting to smash the

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