Right? Instead of how can I do everything to prepare them, it's how can I get out of

their way so they can learn all the stuff they'll need to be able to do ultimately when

I'm gone?

Hi, this is Dene. I'm the founder of Simple Families. Simple Families is an online community

for parents who are seeking a simpler, more intentional life. In this show, we focus on

minimalism with kids, positive parenting, family wellness, and decreasing the mental

load. My perspectives are based in my first-hand experience raising kids, but also rooted in

my PhD in child development. So you're going to hear conversations that are based in research,

but more importantly, real life. Thanks for joining us.

Hi there, this is Dene, and that voice you heard in the intro is Julie Lithcott Haines.

Julie is an author, an educator, and a politician. She's a former dean of freshmen and undergraduate

advising at Stanford. And her work at the university level inspired this book we're about

to talk about today, how to raise an adult, break free of the overparenting trap, and prepare

your kid for success. Julie is a New York Times best-selling author, a Ted Speaker, a lawyer,

shields degrees from Stanford, Harvard Law, and she's also a mother. And although her work may

have inspired this book, her personal experience is deeply embedded within it. Thanks for

tuning in. I think you're going to love this chat with Julie. Hi Julie, how are you? Dene, I'm

great. How are you? I'm good. I'm so happy to have you here today. Thanks for having me. Glad to

be with you. Yeah, well, I just finished reading your book, How to Raise an Adult, and so many of the

themes in this book, which I know you wrote quite a few years ago. So many of those themes really

resonated with me. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad and I'm sad, right? I identified a problem that was

percolating in our culture, this overparenting phenomenon, because I was seeing the effects of it

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