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🗓️ 19 August 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. As always, thank you. Just thank you for doing life with us, for doing this American moment with us. Thank you. |
| 0:19.8 | Today we're sharing with you a beautiful and important |
| 0:22.9 | conversation I had with two of my personal heroes, Shana Aber from the Acacia Center for Justice |
| 0:28.8 | and Lillian Aponte Miranda from the Florence Project. We recorded this together as a virtual |
| 0:34.7 | gathering where thousands of us came together to learn how to better care for |
| 0:38.2 | each other in this moment. We talked about the relentless cruelty so many immigrant children and families |
| 0:44.1 | are facing and how love and justice are the unstoppable river that we can harness together to help |
| 0:49.8 | protect each other and our neighbors in this moment. Shana and Lillian will guide us into the work of immigrant justice, how each of us can |
| 0:57.5 | get in the boat, take our place, and help move toward collective liberation. |
| 1:02.6 | And more importantly, in this moment, how the hell we protect the kids and our neighbors |
| 1:06.6 | from ice. |
| 1:08.0 | The Acacia Center is preparing to launch Witness for Justice this September, a project we |
| 1:12.6 | discussed in this episode. In the show notes, you'll find everything you need to get involved, where to sign up for |
| 1:18.2 | the volunteer hub, links to follow the Florence Project in the Acacia Center, and resources to connect |
| 1:24.0 | with immigration rights organizations in your own community. If you ever wanted to know |
| 1:28.3 | what you would have done during the civil rights movement, it's what you're doing now. Here's a way to |
| 1:35.4 | start. I'm Graham Millard. I'm the communications manager here at the Florence Immigrant and |
| 1:40.3 | Refugee Rights Project based in Phoenix, Arizona and Tucson, Arizona. |
| 1:45.0 | Thank you so much for joining us. |
| 1:47.0 | I am going to introduce our wonderful panelists here with us today. |
| 1:52.5 | To start, we have Shana Aber. |
| 1:54.9 | Shana is the executive director of the Acacia Center for Justice. |
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