How to Have *Healthy* Conflict with Amanda Ripley (Best Of)
We Can Do Hard Things
Treat Media and Glennon Doyle
4.8 • 41.1K Ratings
🗓️ 17 August 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. So here's what we're doing today. |
| 0:15.3 | We jumped in to this conversation about conflict with Amanda Ripley, who is freaking amazing. |
| 0:23.6 | And we got so excited to talk to her that we felt like we did this deep dive into the |
| 0:29.4 | ocean of conflict and forgot to do any of the basics. Okay. So we asked Amanda to come back |
| 0:37.3 | to talk to us about like an introductory conversation to conflict |
| 0:43.5 | because we felt like the conversation we had was so important that we needed a set of foundation |
| 0:49.3 | first. |
| 0:50.2 | So Amanda, thank you for coming back. |
| 0:52.3 | Amanda Ripley is an investigative journalist and author. |
| 0:55.3 | Her most recent book is High Conflict, which chronicles how people get trapped by conflicts of all kinds and how they get out. |
| 1:03.1 | Her previous books included The Unthinkable and the Smartest Kids in the World, a New York Times bestseller, which was also turned into a documentary film. |
| 1:11.9 | So, Amanda, thank you for coming back. We wanted to start by asking you questions we should |
| 1:18.7 | have asked you the first time. For example, what is conflict? Thank you for having me back. |
| 1:26.4 | I'm delighted. I just want to know, this topic is so incredibly important. Thank you for having me back. Yes. Delighted. |
| 1:27.9 | I just want to know this topic is so incredibly important, right? |
| 1:32.4 | Because our entire lives we're going through trying to connect with people while also maintaining our individuality. |
| 1:42.7 | And that seems to be like a push-pull inside of conflict. |
| 1:46.1 | And because of that, conflict with other people is crucial. |
| 1:52.4 | We have to have it, right? |
| 1:54.0 | So talk to us about what is good kind of conflict and then what is high conflict? |
| 2:02.5 | Is that what? Okay, what is high conflict? |
| 2:09.3 | Okay. So, yeah, we need conflict. We probably need more of it than we have, which I know is shocking. |
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