Hello and welcome to nobody panic with me Stevie and me Tessa. This is a good

episode I think because it's a lot going on recently and also by recently I mean

hundreds of years but at the same time a lot of people are kind of

having their eyes open to things that lots of other people are going why are your eyes opening

now better late than never guys the The title is How to Practice Allyship and initially we thought

about calling it or we were discussing it being called how to be a better ally and

then how to practice being an ally and then the more we learn and

we're going to get into it but I think the title needs to be how to practice

allyship because you realize it's not something you can just say oh I've done it

tip yep I'm an ally you've got to it's a it's a lifelong work

yes and it's for anyone who's feeling a bit lost or confused or overwhelmed by things

wanting to help not knowing what to do and also crucially being

scared to do anything in case you get it wrong. We're trying to talk to sort of all

different kinds of all of all-allyship so that's white people supporting black people

men supporting women, white people supporting black people men supporting women

cis people supporting the trans community physically able supporting

disabled maybe you find yourself in one marginalized group for one thing but in

another way you you're in the privileged camp so hopefully

this speaks to everyone and we're sorry if we get anything wrong.

Neither of us are experts here what we've done is we've just done lots of reading and so we just wanted to impart the small

steps that we've learned and we're trying to go on ourselves so that you don't

feel because it was very important to do something but also it's very important not to just like

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