And when I became a binge drinker, my life was literally broken down into how many

benches did I have that year.

What does a loved one do to help that person transition out and be free?

So when a person says my husband is choosing to drink over our relationship,

you have to eliminate that from your thought process because the people who've gone through addiction,

this is not a choice. Nobody is asked for this to happen. This is not his fault.

We're driving home and he says, hey Pat, how come you're not saying anything to me?

I said, you know, just to be honest with you, I just see you being a pain.

And I hope you realize there's value to life. I don't know how to help you.

That is the best and most honest and supportive thing you can do to a loved one who's suffering.

Is alcohol adversely affecting any part of your life? If the answer is yes, then you need to address it.

My guest today is Claudia Christian, which by the way, if you, if you go in there and do research

on her story as an actress and what she's done in the life you've lived, you will be so curious

on what we can learn from her because she did a TEDx talk a few years ago, I don't know if it was

two years ago, three years ago, on how she dealt, openly she came out and talked about how she dealt

with AUD and how she relapsed 20 times and how she even went and tried a lot of different programs.

And even once she spent $30,000 in a program, and this is very close to me because I've dealt

with many close friends and family of mine who have struggled with this. But prior to getting

into the interview, let me just read to you what her book, Babylon Confidential, a memoir of love,

sex and addiction, how it describes her life, then you're going to see what we're going to go with this.

So from the set of Dallas to her starring role on the sci-fi series Babylon 5, Claudia's affairs

with billionaire supermodels, rock stars and celebrities are mixed with shooting, stocking,

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