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The Political Orphanage

How To Not Think Religiously About Climate Change

The Political Orphanage

Andrew Heaton

Politics, Comedy, News

4.91000 Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2020

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

How often do climate change discussions get sidetracked by doomsday porn or hoax talk? Sheril Kirshenbaum is the host of "Serving Up Science" at PBS Digital Studios, and a contributor at Scientific American. She joins Heaton to talk about tackling the subject of climate change scientifically, and coming up with rational policy objectives in response.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the political orphanage a show for problem solvers and problem drinkers.

0:15.0

And sometimes, if we're lucky, solver drinkers.

0:19.0

I'm your host Andrew Heaton.

0:22.1

I've been in political media for 2,000 or 3,000 years I think, most of which happened in

0:30.0

2020. To be fair, most of those 2,000 years have been in 2020. But the longer I do this,

0:37.0

the more I think there are two basic approaches people take to politics.

0:41.0

Either problems in government are caused by bad systems and it's our job

0:47.3

to identify faults and correct them, or problems in government are caused by bad people, and the wicked must be driven into the sea.

0:58.0

Much of the problem with current political discourse lies therein.

1:02.0

Being wrong is different than being wicked. Saying something

1:04.6

incorrect is qualitatively different than uttering blasphemy. And I think it's one of

1:09.7

the reasons climate change specifically has become so contentious because we're

1:14.4

increasingly approaching the issue not as scientists, engineers or

1:18.4

economists but as firebrands and preachers for our respective sects.

1:23.8

Let me give you two quick examples.

1:26.8

When I worked on Capitol Hill, I was hanging out in the cafeteria one time talking with some

1:31.2

other staffers. And the topic of global warming came up and I said

1:35.2

something pithy about it like I don't want to have to buy a boat to visit my uncle's farm, some

1:39.9

glib comment, belying my concern about rising sea levels, and one of the other staffers told

1:45.3

me you don't need to worry about the waters rising.

1:49.6

God made a covenant with Noah that he would never again flood the earth so God won't let the ice

1:54.8

get hot enough to raise sea levels which I found very frustrating because here was

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