If you're someone who says, I want to be a CEO and I want to pay my workers less than

$15 an hour to maximize my profits, you're not going to like me very much.

If you're someone who really thinks that the most important thing in feminism is whether

not women change their last names or if they wear a lipstick or they shave their underarms,

we're not going to get along.

I love you!

Like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady, like a lady like a lady, like a lady like.

I love...

Caroline, we've done an episode about maiden names.

Two episodes about makeup.

A three-parter on body hair.

And when our guest Mickey Kendall said that,

I did have a moment of thinking,

is she talking about us?

Well, I don't know if you needed to worry about asking,

because if you know anything about Mickey,

you know that she will not hesitate to let white feminists know when we're missing the point.

Yeah, yeah.

And I do get it.

Like Mickey is an outspoken feminist who's always looking at the bigger structural issues.

Like, where all the lipstick you want or don't,

can we just talk about affordable housing and food insecurity instead, please?

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