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Foreign Policy Live

How to Navigate the Trade Wars

Foreign Policy Live

Foreign Policy

Politics, News Commentary, News

4 • 601 Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Harvard University professor and economist Dani Rodrik first questioned in the late 1990s whether globalization had gone too far. He joins FP Live to share his take on the Trump administration’s tariffs and how to navigate a historically turbulent moment in global trade. Jamieson Greer: Trump’s Trade Representative: Why We Remade the Global Order Dani Rodrik: Where Is the Global Resistance to Trump? Ravi Agrawal: How to Navigate Trump’s Tariffs Cameron Abadi: Are Tariffs the American Brexit? Keith Johnson: Trump’s Long-Promised Tariffs Upend Global Trade Peter Coy: No Need for Hoarding Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Ravi Agrual, Foreign Policies Editor-in-Chief.

0:38.3

This is FP Live.

0:41.3

Trump's tariffs continue to roil global trade.

0:45.3

But how should countries navigate the turmoil?

0:49.3

The answer depends on whether you trust Trump to stay the course.

0:53.3

Today, we'll talk about the menu of options in front of countries

0:57.4

and whether they can build a trade ecosystem without America.

1:03.4

But just one thing before we get to all of that.

1:06.5

This Friday, Trump is meeting Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska.

1:11.5

Yes, you can dismiss the summit as a reality TV stunt.

1:15.4

Yes, we've been here before with North Korea's Kim Jong-un in Trump's first term.

1:20.7

And yes, Trump himself is trying to downplay the summit, calling it a, quote, feel-out meeting.

1:27.0

Yes to all of that.

1:28.5

But I think it's wrong to dismiss the Alaska summit entirely.

1:33.1

The reality is the war in Ukraine shows no signs of stopping on its own.

1:39.0

Some diplomatic movement, no matter how little you trust it, might help move things along.

1:46.0

And if it doesn't, at the very least, it could serve to accelerate Trump's journey

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