So saying yes to Jesus didn't just wipe out my attraction to other women.

And that was something that my brothers and sisters in Christ knew about.

But they didn't treat me as like different or weird.

They were like every single one of us all experienced temptation,

and we're all trying to grow together.

And how do we say yes to Jesus and no to temptations? So you might be drawn toward whoever,

but the muscle of Christian obedience is the same. We have to fight our sin by the power of the

spirit. I think this generation of parents are dealing with things that we didn't really have to deal with, and that is the LGBTQ topic.

Racing your kids.

Yeah.

So we got Rachel Gilson with us.

Your story's pretty extraordinary to me.

When I've heard it, I'm like, man, this is so powerful.

So we're wondering if you would

go back and give us a little part of your upbringing and how you came to know Jesus.

Give us the Rachel Gilson memoir. I would be happy to. So I grew up in Southern California,

which is what the new heavens and the new earth will be patterned after. You think so?

I feel pretty convinced, yeah.

And I was raised by my mom and dad, neither of whom had a deep Christian background.

My mom had been raised Catholic, but in her...

Yeah, in her words, she gave it up at 13 for cigarettes and boys.

She can't do both.

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