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🗓️ 26 March 2025
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Matt Fitzgerald is the author of well-known books like 80/20 endurance and in his most recent book titled “Chasing Mastery”, he provides 25 lessons to reach your full athletic potential.
During the episode, we discussed topics including:
Matt makes it clear that mastering running has nothing to do with talent. Instead, he shows how anyone can become your best self as a person and athlete.
Chasing Mastery book purchase: https://8020books.com/product/chasing-mastery/
80/20 endurance coaching and training resources: https://www.8020endurance.com/8020-endurance-books-best-training-resources/
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0:00.0 | If you have what it takes as an athlete to get really close to mastery, then you're never going to stop refining, you know, because you have what it takes to, you know, just like always learn, always like just, you know, find new ways to get more out of yourself. |
0:17.4 | I don't think the journey ever ends. |
0:20.6 | If you've ever heard of the 80-20 rule where 80% of your mileage is easy running, then |
0:25.3 | today's guest, Matt Fitzgerald, has already helped your training. He's the author of many |
0:29.7 | well-known running books, as well as founder and coach for the 80-20 endurance group. He's also |
0:34.8 | a repeat guest on the show, and the day before this episode comes out, |
0:38.2 | released his new book on how to master the sport of running. I think I might have accidentally |
0:42.3 | said the day after in the show, but if you're listening, it's out. So check out the link in the show |
0:46.6 | notes. Mastery, as he describes it, has nothing to do with talent or even time and resources. |
0:53.2 | That means that if you're listening as a |
0:54.7 | five-hour marathoner with a full-time job, it's still completely possible to reach your full |
0:59.2 | potential as an athlete. I think it's a pretty cool concept, to be honest, reaching your personal |
1:04.0 | limits. And I wanted to get Matt on the show to share what it takes to get there and how he |
1:08.8 | believes that he managed to master running as |
1:10.8 | a 50-something-year-old non-pro runner. |
1:13.7 | Matt is one of the most knowledgeable writers out there, but he's also really down-to-earth |
1:17.3 | guy who told me that he wants to normalize drinking beer on running podcasts, which you'll |
1:21.3 | see if you're watching on YouTube. |
1:23.3 | So with that, let's get into the interview. Hello, runners and welcome to the Run to the Top podcast, where our goal is making you |
1:39.3 | a better runner with each and every episode. |
1:41.3 | I'm your showrunner, Corey Nagler, and I'm not an elite runner, but together we'll explore |
1:46.3 | new strategies and topics to take your running to the next level. |
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