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🗓️ 24 June 2024
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0:00.0 | You're listening to Women at Work from Harvard Business Review. |
0:06.5 | I'm Amy Bernstein. |
0:08.5 | No matter how ambitious and talented you are, rising up and out of mid-level |
0:17.6 | management can be slow going for reasons beyond your |
0:23.7 | control position you want has been there forever and might stay there forever. |
0:28.4 | Or when the company doesn't have a business need or the budget to upgrade your job title and salary from senior |
0:35.8 | to executive. |
0:37.9 | When you're ready to take on more and especially when you've been waiting and trying for |
0:42.2 | what seems like a very long time. |
0:44.8 | The prospect of remaining stuck in the middle indefinitely is suffocating. |
0:50.6 | My three guests have been there. They've gotten themselves out of there and now they're |
0:54.7 | here to direct, inspire, and reassure you. Two of them are COOs, Megan Bach and Lauren Reyes. Megan rose up through the insurance |
1:05.6 | industry and switched to tech a few years ago. I think in early days I |
1:10.1 | perhaps wasn't as effective at articulating that I wanted to do more. |
1:15.0 | As more time passed, I got more explicit. |
1:19.0 | Lauren rose up the ranks at the YMCA. |
1:22.0 | I joke with my mom all the time. up the ranks at the YMCA. |
1:22.6 | I joke with my mom all the time |
1:25.1 | that I feel like I've been not qualified |
1:27.4 | for every job that I've applied for and gotten. |
1:30.2 | And in actuality, you know, like I was qualified. |
1:33.0 | I had what it took, but there's always that self-doubt. |
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