Hello, this is the Webbox Podcast. I'm Matt Chowley and we got a treat for you today.

Pop up, end of the week listening. We look back on the history of party political

broadcast. The new year we've seen the new ones from Rishisunaka Keir Starmer. They're

not that imaginative to be honest compared to some of the ones we've seen in the past.

We're going to hear from Moiss Archie long-serving Tory Adman and Mark Lucas who worked on some

of the big ones of the new Labour years, really fascinating chat coming up with them and a trip

down memory lane as well. First though, as ever, we kick off with the Colourbus panel.

The Colourbus on Times Radio.

We have delighted today's Colourbus. Joining me are Katie Balls,

put together the spectator right for the time today, morning Katie.

Morning. And we've got Jimmy McLachlan, former adviser in number 10 on Business.

Now presents a podcast called Jimmy's Jobs of the Future. Morning Jimmy.

Morning, Matt. Nice to have you both with us.

Right, let's start with Rishisunak. I want to sort of zoom out a little bit and try to work

out what's the plan to quote what's the plan to quote Jeremy Hunt from early one of the week.

So he was in more come yesterday, Rishisunak, suggesting the public understands why he can't cut

taxes, even if it may be his colleagues don't, saying the people aren't idiots.

I'm a conservative, I want to cut your taxes, of course I do, right, because you all work

incredibly hard and I want you to keep more of your money so you can spend it on the stuff that

you want to, right? That's what I want to deliver. I wish I could do that tomorrow, quite frankly,

but the reason we can't is because of all the reasons you know, right? You're not idiots,

you know what's happened, right? We had a massive pandemic for two years, we have to shut the

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