Hello, this is the Red Box Podcast. I'm Matt Chawley, coming up on today's podcast.

We play the generation game loads of talk recently about how the Tories are really losing

votes amongst young people. They've got to come up with some policies for the millennials

and the TikTokers. The truth is, they're losing votes across the board and they've lost

a bigger chunk of the older voters who are normally their bedlocks. We're going to try and

work out what they need to do, although they're basically just 30 years in power. That's

what happens. That's coming up in just a moment. First though, at Ever, we kick off with

the columnists. The columnists on time's radio. Yes, at this morning, we are joined as

over on a Thursday morning by James Murray at Morning Chapes. Good morning. And no engine

out this morning because she's traveling. Oh, posh. So we're joined by Jenny Russell. Morning,

Jenny. Well, thanks, Matt. I'm glad to be a standing. Well, I say, I say it's posh. I think

actually she's stuck on a train. And as we all know, there's nothing posh about bringing

stuff on a train. Anyways, Jenny, it's nice. Nice to have you with us. Let's kick off with,

it's always interested to wake up to some big political news. The reason we woke up to it is

because it happened while we were asleep on the other side of the world. Jacinda Ardern,

the New Zealand Parliament is to making this announcement. Let's take a listen.

This has been the most fulfilling five and a half years of my life. But it has also had

its challenges. I know what this job takes. And I know that I no longer have enough in the

tank to do it justice. It's that simple. I know there will be much discussion in the aftermath

of this decision as to what the so-called real reason was. I can tell you that what I'm

shearing today is it. Yes, she's quitting. She's quitting. She's actually going to quit next month.

A head of a general election in October, which her party was widely expected to lose judging by

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