How To Lose Your 'Virginity' at 43
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 11 March 2025
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
For most of her life, Elizabeth was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which forbids having sex outside of marriage. But she recently left the Mormon faith, and now she's ready to have sex for the first time—at age 43. On this episode of How To!, Courtney Martin brings on Nicole Hardy, author of Confessions of a Latter-Day Virgin to offer Elizabeth advice that's relevant to anyone who's ready to tap into their sexuality later in life—but unsure how (or where! or with whom!) to start.
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| 0:30.2 | My name is Elizabeth. I am 43 years old and I just recently left the Mormon church. I grew up in it and have been in my whole life and I at the end of last year just realized it was not working for me and it was time for something new. Welcome to how to. I'm Courtney Martin. How to, as you know, is an advice show, and we get questions |
| 0:56.8 | about everything from how to pay off your student loans to like how to have a yard sale. And then |
| 1:03.6 | there are deeply personal questions, like Elizabeth, which arrived in an email with a subject line, |
| 1:10.4 | How to Lose My Virginity in |
| 1:12.4 | my 40s. Okay, now just a heads up, we are obviously going to talk about sex in this conversation. |
| 1:18.7 | So, in her message, Elizabeth wrote, I grew up in the Mormon church, which has very strict |
| 1:24.2 | rules about sex outside of marriage. I never got married. |
| 1:27.7 | So no sex. |
| 1:29.5 | And now I don't even know how to go about doing this. |
| 1:33.5 | It's a very good question. |
| 1:36.0 | Obviously there are many, many different forms of sexual physical intimacy. |
| 1:40.2 | But culturally, we often hear about people experiencing their firsts as teens. |
| 1:45.6 | During that time, there's awkwardness, fumbling, learning together. |
| 1:49.6 | And when you don't have that developmental period, for whatever reason, you feel behind. |
| 1:54.8 | Like everyone has this script or knowledge, and you don't. |
| 1:58.3 | It can be deeply isolating. Which is why today's listener Elizabeth wants some guidance. |
| 2:04.0 | Teachings of the Mormon church include not having sex outside of marriage, and that's something |
| 2:09.2 | that is taken very seriously. People have been kicked out of the church for having sex outside |
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