We pathologize things and we narrate things as like good things or bad things and pain is a bad thing but like by

Narying it as bad we disallow ourselves from like just letting it be, just letting it be there.

The pain is not forever just like nothing is forever and like maybe it'll get worse but

maybe it'll get better and but maybe it'll get better. And that maybe, that little bit of like possibility

that like, or maybe I'll just get better

at letting it be.

And that's the thing that happened.

I got better at letting it be and it's like it just

feels like magic.

So have you ever felt like you were carrying around an invisible weight, pain, discomfort, or struggle that no one else could see.

Something that made even the simplest daily tasks feel overwhelming at times.

For many of us, the experience of invisible pain, it's all too familiar.

Yet it often goes unspoken. We put on a brave face and power through hiding our suffering from the world.

What if there was another way?

A path to make that invisible pain more visible even if just to yourself or to those closest

to you, or a way to navigate it and experience it with more ease even if no one else

knew what you were moving through. My guest today is also a dear friend

Simira Rajavi. She's a PhD in

researcher in media studies with a specialty in trauma,

digital media, and meaning making.

A professor and author of the award-winning book,

all my friends live in my computer, trauma, tactical media, and

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