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Hey, Brack.

Okay, this is Brack Koston.

I've known him.

Do you know how long we've known each other, Breck?

It's probably been close to 20 years at this point. No more because I was like 30, 31, maybe even younger. Anyway, so easily, no, I think it's 25. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah, I'm never, I'm never good with time and years. Yeah, I think I was like in my early 30s. All right. So this is Brett Koston. I've known him for years because a group of friends of mine had found this freedom course in L.A. And it was transformative for them. And I liked the name Freedom. And I was like at a crossroads with a relationship.

Yeah, Breck, I think it was earlier. It was like in my 20s. Yeah, in most of then. And I was, so that was like a long time ago, like maybe almost 30 years ago. And you could probably go back and look at the dates. I probably still have my Freedom Notebook upstairs. And I went to this like three-day immersive experience at Brack and learned a language.

A lot of people use now that I actually know is because of me, which I'll

get into. And Breck's sort of like oblivious to all that like commercial stuff in ways, which I like,

because like he never knows how many times I use his words, but I do always give him credit. But like

other people do also. So Breck is a life coach

slash non-traditional therapist, but not like a doctor. And we've known each other for years.

And we talk fairly regularly. And he's a great guy. And he's had a big life. And I wanted to have him on here. I think

you came on years ago when I started. No, I never came on as a podcast. We did, you and you had your talk

show. You didn't, I think we did. But maybe, yeah, we did in the very beginning. 100% telling you,

you know, it's way too long now. Can't remember anything apparently.

Yeah, I mean, 100% in the very, very beginning we talked.

So you're in L.A.

And we spoke the other day.

And I thought that hopefully you'd want to come on more.

But I'll sort of drive.

And I wanted to just, like, bring up different concepts that we've discussed over the years that jump off the page to me and also that you probably don't even know that I've discussed with people and have jumped off the page with them. So like you talk about a million things, but like probably the things you wouldn't even think would be the biggest thing. Yeah, that's true. I mean, you know, people will take away what they think is really relevant and resonates.

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