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The Chris Harder Show

How to Lead Through Uncertainty (and Come Out Stronger) with Seth Mattison

The Chris Harder Show

Chris Harder

Entrepreneurship, Business

4.91.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Let's talk about your competitive edge in business today. I'm joined by my good friend and global workplace expert Seth Mattison to unpack how to lead yourself and others through massive uncertainty. You'll learn the #1 thing people want from leaders right now and how to build the unshakable mindset that makes you indispensable no matter what changes around you. We're talking about agency, self-trust, and putting love into your work in a way no machine can replicate. If you've been feeling anxious about the future, this episode will reignite your belief that you have the power to create it.

 

HIGHLIGHTS

  • The ultimate leadership skill to navigate uncertainty and come out stronger.

  • How to stay confident and in control when everything's changing.

  • The mindset shift to thrive through disruption.

  • What makes you indispensable, no matter how fast the world evolves.

  • How to create unshakable purpose and meaning in your work (and how it contributes to your fulfillment and success.)

 

RESOURCES

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Seth: @sethmattison

Transcript

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0:00.0

The antidote to uncertainty is uncertainty.

0:02.9

It's self-trust.

0:04.3

Wow.

0:05.1

That's what's going to see you through because nobody's going to be able to tell you exactly

0:08.7

what jobs, what professions are going to get rock.

0:10.6

Like anybody who tries to tell you doesn't know they're probably selling something.

0:14.6

We don't know.

0:16.2

It's moving too fast.

0:17.5

So the only thing you can default back to is trusting yourself to know that

0:22.0

from that place, you will figure out a path forward. You'll find a way.

0:31.3

Welcome everybody to the Chris Harder Show, where we are making you unapologetic about your

0:36.0

pursuit of success, knowing that when good

0:38.0

people like you make good money, they can then do great things. My name is Chris Harder and several

0:42.9

times per week. I will bring you epic guests, solo episodes, and every single tool, trick, and

0:47.8

skill set you need to grow your business, grow your money mindset, and to grow your wealth to

0:52.4

levels that you have never reached before. I've ended up in a unique place in life where I've got the experience, the connections, and to grow your wealth to levels that you have never reached before.

0:54.7

I've ended up in a unique place in life where I've got the experience, the connections,

0:58.5

and all of the secrets that it takes to be successful.

1:01.3

And I'm lifting the curtain to reveal it all to you in an effort to help put you in a position of abundance so great

1:07.7

that you can then be as generous as possible.

1:13.4

So let's lock arms and let's get started. Hey everybody, welcome back to the Chris Harder Show. Now, normally I do a solo episode,

1:20.8

but I've got a real treat for you today. I've got one of my best friends in the world,

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