How to Lead People Who Are Not Like You Interview with Stephanie Chung

Win Make Give with Ben Kinney

Ben Kinney Training

Self-improvement, Education

4.9 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Chad Hyams and Bob Stewart host Stephanie Chung, an aviation executive and author, on the Win Make Give podcast. Stephanie shares insights from her book, "Ally Leadership: How to Lead People Who Are Not Like You," revealing strategies for effective leadership in today's diverse workforce. The discussion centers on the EARN acronym—establish, assure, rally, and navigate—offering practical advice for fostering a cohesive team environment. Discover how to enhance innovation and alignment while rallying teams around a shared vision, even when navigating leadership challenges.

Connect with Stephanie at https://stephaniechung.com/

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Wind Make Give podcast.
0:10.0	Chad Heim's here and Bob Stewart's there.
0:12.9	Bob, how's it going today?
0:14.5	Chad, I'm ready to institute a new rule.
0:17.9	We don't have many rules around here, by the way.
0:20.0	There's very, very few rules. Wait, can we have any rules? No, no rules. I'm going to do rule number one. Okay. We have many rules around here, by the way. There's very, very few rules.
0:21.1	Wait, we have any rules around here?
0:22.6	No, no rules. I'm going to do rule number one. I'm so jealous. I'm just, I'm telling you right now, I'm so jealous. This is time 7,385. You got it. Everybody can't see. Our guest can see. He's waving the book around. Chad gets all the books.
0:37.7	He must have one of the most
0:39.6	beautiful bookshelves in podcasting history because we've had a lot of great guests some really
0:45.5	amazing books you have them all yes it's the price to get on the win make give podcast if you have a book
0:52.5	you must send me a copy so this one bob
0:55.8	i know our audience can't see it yet if i open up this book it's even in small you know um
1:03.0	i'm going to have to reconsider like my entire life because my my wife would tell you i don't i don't want
1:08.9	a plan chad i don't have any intention to plan.
1:11.6	I'm not a planner.
1:13.1	You do all the planning for all the episodes.
1:15.5	So I guess it makes sense that you get the books.
1:18.3	But I'm thinking about just becoming a different human.
1:22.9	Bob, here's the deal.
1:24.3	And I'm going to say it here on this episode.
1:25.9	So episode, win, make, give,
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