Hi everyone is Kaysonger. Just a reminder that you can listen to all of our

podcast ad-free on the Headspace app. space studio. Hi everyone. I'm Debbie Millman, your guest host for the week. Welcome to Radio Head Space and to Tuesday.

If you listen yesterday, then you know that this week is all about being intentional about creating a career and a life that we love.

But before we can do what we love, we have to know what we love and what we really want.

Today we'll discuss different ways to determine what we want out of life and how that can

help focus our career.

So when I graduated college, I hadn't even known about what it meant

to do an internship before you graduate.

My only jobs when I was studying in school

were working at a pizza joint making pizza pies.

And so when I graduated, I really only knew one thing,

and that was I wanted to live in Manhattan.

My dad lived in Manhattan for a couple of years as I was growing up.

I'm a native New Yorker and this felt like the perfect place to sort of make my life.

But I also knew that I wanted to live a creative life and I

suspected that I couldn't do both.

And this is really where I, in many ways,

compromised on what I was considering possible for myself. And I moved to Manhattan and I could have become a waitress or a bartender

or any number of other types of service jobs, but I was afraid that if I did that, my pay might

become quite unpredictable and therefore it might be very, very challenging to sustain a life in Manhattan.

And so I became a commercial artist.

I pursued a career as a designer

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