How to Humanize Your Enemies (w/ Valarie Kaur)

Soul Boom

Rainn Wilson

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Mental Health

4.8 • 610 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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How can we humanize our political "opponents" and stop viewing the world as "them vs. us?" Revolutionary love in practice. Valarie Kaur returns to unpack how we can transform grief into courageous action, and build a bigger we that resists dehumanization while defending democracy. We walk through tools like wonder, grief, listening across difference, and experiments with love on the frontlines and at home. Soul Boom Workbook (Out NOW!) 👉 https://a.co/d/dM5wTYM THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS! OneSkin 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get 15% off OneSkin with the code SOULBOOM at ⁠https://www.oneskin.co⁠ ZipRecruiter (try it FREE!) 👉 https://www.ziprecruiter.com/soulboom Uncommon Goods (15% OFF!) 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.uncommongoods.com/soulboom reMarkable 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://remarkable.com⁠ Fetzer 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fetzer.org ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⏯️ SUBSCRIBE!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👕 MERCH OUT NOW! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📩 SUBSTACK!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW US! IG: 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://instagram.com/soulboom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://tiktok.com/@soulboom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ CONTACT US! Sponsor Soul Boom: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@companionarts.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Work with Soul Boom: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠business@soulboom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send Fan Creations, Questions, Comments: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@soulboom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Produced by: Kartik Chainani Executive Produced by: Ford Bowers, Samah Tokmachi Companion Arts Production Supervisor: Mike O'Brien Theme Music by: Marcos Moscat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?
0:04.0	Not much to it, is there?
0:06.0	Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.
0:10.0	Mmm, that is good.
0:13.0	Now that's what Asani should sound like.
0:15.0	Go all crisp in with walkers.
0:18.0	Delicious.
0:20.0	They're targeting our non-profits, our foundations. They're targeting our nonprofits, our foundations.
0:23.7	They're putting our names and faces on with...
0:25.6	I have to push back against this there.
0:26.2	There's a lot of use of the word they are.
0:28.6	Even when you say they are doing that, they are doing that,
0:31.1	it becomes almost a demonizing use of the word they.
0:34.4	If you look at the example of the great spiritual leaders,
0:38.0	Jesus was nothing but dehumanized.
0:40.4	And he humanized everyone he encountered.
0:43.0	I think it's important to recognize that there are opponents.
0:47.1	So when I say they...
0:47.9	I have a problem with the word opponent.
0:49.5	That's so funny.
0:50.6	Because I think it's like...
0:52.3	Okay, let's do this. Okay, let's do this.
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