How to Hold a Grudge with Nora McInerny
Savvy Psychologist
Macmillan Holdings, LLC
4.6 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 21 January 2022
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
Has a therapist ever told you to write a letter and never send it, or to just write out your feelings? Did you ignore them? In this interview with Nora McInerny, host of the podcast Terrible, Thanks For Asking, we find out the power of journaling and how it can help in even the most dire of situations.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone, you're in for a special treat. You're going to hear the conversation I had |
| 0:09.8 | with Nora on the concept of a grudge book which is her form of journaling. I am a big fan |
| 0:16.1 | of journaling and it's commonly recommended by therapists. Additionally it's something that |
| 0:21.3 | most people have access to and is relatively inexpensive at the self-care practice. |
| 0:27.6 | In this interview you'll hear how Nora used the grudge book through one of the most difficult |
| 0:33.1 | times of her life, the loss of a loved one. Welcome back to Savvy Psychologist. I'm your host |
| 0:40.8 | Dr. Monica Johnson. Every week on this show I'll help you face life challenges with evidence-based |
| 0:46.8 | approaches, a sympathetic ear and zero judgment. Hi Nora, welcome to the Savvy Psychologist podcast. |
| 0:54.7 | Super happy to have you here. Thank you for having me. Today I wanted to talk to you about |
| 1:01.4 | the grudge book. It's something that's been really interesting to me because I'm a big |
| 1:06.5 | proponent of journaling for my patients. So I wanted to start by asking how do the grudge book |
| 1:14.3 | come about? I have also always been a journaler. I have been a documentary. I've also always been |
| 1:22.0 | a person who obsesses. A person who is I think sometimes I've almost like dismissed it as |
| 1:32.2 | peddiness or as maybe even something worse, like maybe even like oh I'm a bad person because |
| 1:39.2 | I'm so affected by this other person's actions or inactions. So if you review any of my journals, |
| 1:46.0 | which yes, line the closet walls where I am speaking to you right now you will see evidence that I've |
| 1:52.0 | always been a documentary. But in 2014 my husband Aaron died of brain cancer and he died after |
| 2:01.4 | my father had just died of you know cancer in general cancers and my dad died five days after I |
| 2:09.1 | lost my second pregnancy. So things were bad and a thing that I don't think we are as open about |
| 2:19.2 | as we could or should be because we lack so much awareness especially when we're suffering is |
| 2:25.2 | that suffering people are often the worst. It's so hard to be around a person in pain because |
| 2:32.9 | we are not always good people. We are focused on our own pain and I was so focused on my own pain |
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