Hello, ho-ho-ho, Merry Christmas.

Mary Christmas.

Happy holidays.

Happy Wintermas.

Happy Winter Festival, happy Winter Festival, happy December, happy, yeah, happy whatever you've got going on.

I'm Stevie. Tessa Coates, okay.

Here we go. we've smashed it, we're out the gate, we come and they're off.

So, quiet and erratic to start, we're a podcast. We like to help you figure out some things each week.

And we had a nice email, didn't we, Tessa?

Yes, we did. We actually had quite a few emails about this. Great. More than one.

Two emails. That said. Can and it was something that we've I think been

increasingly interested over the years and especially this year

what's it going to be what a buildup it is how to have a more ethical Christmas.

Emphasis on the more because before we even do our adult things which we do every

episode I would like to say that for so long when like I wanted to be more sustainable, more ethical and I would like look things up and when you do look things up you then you see that there's often the initial tips and tricks are for rich people or for people who have

slightly more money than you sell perhaps if you were listening and you're like, oh, I'm loaded, that's great.

However, I just wanted to say that sometimes these things can be, you can be like, you know, like things like,

go to vegan. You're like, cool, vegan cheese is like seven pounds.

So anything that we say, we'll be very careful not to just like

shout at everybody but like the idea is like just there might be one thing in the

episode that you go oh I could do that that That's enough. There's absolutely this this

podcast practices a policy of no shade. No shade in any direction. Sometimes a

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